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Post by Lapis on Dec 15, 2015 0:44:05 GMT -5
I was thinking maybe we could do like.. a community rom hack where people can each be different Pokemon?
Like.. you send in a sprite and give me details and I can implement you into the game.
As for the story, regions, etc, also we can discuss this as a group and hopefully it can lead to something amazing, exciting, and fun. x3
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Post by NidoKingdra on Dec 15, 2015 1:21:42 GMT -5
Yes! You know what to make me I'm sure. You still have the sprite?
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Post by Eru Ilúvatar on Dec 15, 2015 5:18:44 GMT -5
This sounds fun! It'll be a great way to get together and we'll have something at the end of it to show our efforts!
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Post by Mikumo Ichijou on Dec 15, 2015 8:01:16 GMT -5
.....so would it be a Fakemon hack? I can't stand those.
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Post by Eru Ilúvatar on Dec 15, 2015 8:25:46 GMT -5
Oh goodness, please no. It's great that people are creative and all but I just really don't like Fakemon hacks. Just isn't my cup of tea, I suppose.
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Post by NidoKingdra on Dec 15, 2015 11:44:22 GMT -5
Wow, the hate for 'fakemon' here... </3
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Post by Lapis on Dec 15, 2015 13:29:00 GMT -5
Disliking custom Pokemon is something I really can't understand. It's just interactive fun, and I'm sure a lot of us wish we could create our own Pokemon.
You don't even have to catch them if you don't like them. You can stick to using the original Pokemon by playing the actual games anyway so I just don't understand at all how someone could dislike "fakemon" so much. All it does is give the fans a platform to illustrate their creativity and see it in action.
I just don't see the point in doing something like this if I'm going to hinder the potential I have. Mapping is a lot of work and there's only so much it does. Changing the story is fun but it's also very difficult. Creating new Pokemon is not only easier for me, but by far the most interactive and customizable thing I can do to begin with. It would be very discouraging to me if people didn't like the idea for all these reasons I listed.
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Post by Eru Ilúvatar on Dec 15, 2015 13:36:13 GMT -5
Disliking custom Pokemon is something I really can't understand. It's just interactive fun, and I'm sure a lot of us wish we could create our own Pokemon. You don't even have to catch them if you don't like them. You can stick to using the original Pokemon by playing the actual games anyway so I just don't understand at all how someone could dislike "fakemon" so much. All it does is give the fans a platform to illustrate their creativity and see it in action. I just don't see the point in doing something like this if I'm going to hinder the potential I have. Mapping is a lot of work and there's only so much it does. Changing the story is fun but it's also very difficult. Creating new Pokemon is not only easier for me, but by far the most interactive and customizable thing I can do to begin with. It would be very discouraging to me if people didn't like the idea for all these reasons I listed. I don't dislike Fakemon, not really. I just don't generally like Fakemon hacks. I was very clear about that, praising people's creativity and whatnot. If you wish to create a hack with Fakemon, by all means, go ahead. I'll support you completely and I'd still play it anyway, because you made it and I value your friendship.
That said, if you're going to make a thread for suggestions and feedback (which this certainly seemed to look like), you should expect suggestions and feedback. Mikumo Ichijou and I not liking what we don't like is our simple opinion. If that deters you from doing what you love, then that's something you should work on overcoming.
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Post by Lapis on Dec 15, 2015 13:48:39 GMT -5
Disliking custom Pokemon is something I really can't understand. It's just interactive fun, and I'm sure a lot of us wish we could create our own Pokemon. You don't even have to catch them if you don't like them. You can stick to using the original Pokemon by playing the actual games anyway so I just don't understand at all how someone could dislike "fakemon" so much. All it does is give the fans a platform to illustrate their creativity and see it in action. I just don't see the point in doing something like this if I'm going to hinder the potential I have. Mapping is a lot of work and there's only so much it does. Changing the story is fun but it's also very difficult. Creating new Pokemon is not only easier for me, but by far the most interactive and customizable thing I can do to begin with. It would be very discouraging to me if people didn't like the idea for all these reasons I listed. I don't dislike Fakemon, not really. I just don't generally like Fakemon hacks. I was very clear about that, praising people's creativity and whatnot. If you wish to create a hack with Fakemon, by all means, go ahead. I'll support you completely and I'd still play it anyway, because you made it and I value your friendship.
That said, if you're going to make a thread for suggestions and feedback (which this certainly seemed to look like), you should expect suggestions and feedback. Mikumo Ichijou and I not liking what we don't like is our simple opinion. If that deters you from doing what you love, then that's something you should work on overcoming.Well if I'm making a 'fakemon' hack (I really hate that term but I'll use it for this) and you generally dislike fakemon hacks then that tells me you'd prefer I don't use fakemon. I don't see a point is creating something that only a small few people would fully enjoy. Now the last part of what you wrote really looks like you perceived what I wrote as an attack, or me being overly defensive. That wasn't the intention. I expect suggestions. I just don't understand some of the suggestions I receive and choose to elaborate on why. I know not including fakemon is your preference. If I don't do what "I love" it's not because of not being able to accept someone's opinion. It's simply because there's no reason to do it in the first place if people don't like the idea.
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Post by Eru Ilúvatar on Dec 15, 2015 14:00:34 GMT -5
Well if I'm making a 'fakemon' hack (I really hate that term but I'll use it for this) and you generally dislike fakemon hacks then that tells me you'd prefer I don't use fakemon. I don't see a point is creating something that only a small few people would fully enjoy. I agree. If the majority prefers a non-Fakemon hack, we'll be better off with a non-Fakemon hack, should you choose to make it anyway. On the other hand, if the majority wants a Fakemon hack, I'm okay with that too. That is what I meant by pledging my support. Now the last part of what you wrote really looks like you perceived what I wrote as an attack, or me being overly defensive. That wasn't the intention. Your wording was a little fierce. Forgive my misinterpretation. I expect suggestions. I just don't understand some of the suggestions I receive and choose to elaborate on why. I'm going to assume you want me to elaborate. I don't quite know why but I'm generally uncomfortable playing a Fakemon hack. Now, this might not seem, to you, like a very valid, good or fair reason to dislike something but it is to me. I'd also like to re-word what I said in my previous posts a little bit. I don't really dislike them. I'm just not very fond of them. They make me uncomfortable and I do like comfort. I know not including fakemon is your preference. If I don't do what "I love" it's not because of not being able to accept someone's opinion. It's simply because there's no reason to do it in the first place if people don't like the idea. Your first post asked people to "send in a sprite and give details" if they wanted to be a part of the hack. This suggests that it's clearly not for everybody. If people like you're idea, they'll join and if they don't, they won't. Just because two people dislike it doesn't mean others will too. That said, if you feel like you don't have enough people who are willing to join, it's up to you whether you want to go on with it or not.
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Post by Lapis on Dec 15, 2015 14:14:03 GMT -5
A lot of people dislike Fakemon.
My post was not specifically directed at you two. It was directed at anyone who dislikes Fakemon. I don't really know what to do about this honestly. If some people don't like Fakemon and some want Fakemon then what would I do? I'm really not very good at map editing, story writing and scripting.
There are other activities I've been trying to push for the community and I can just focus more on those. This can be on hold unless more people want it, or if the community decides how they want it done. I think part of the reason I love fakemon is because I always wanted to create my own Pokemon for Nintendo, and the only way I can make my dream a reality is to do this type of thing.
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Post by Eru Ilúvatar on Dec 15, 2015 14:20:10 GMT -5
A lot of people dislike Fakemon. My post was not specifically directed at you two. It was directed at anyone who dislikes Fakemon. I don't really know what to do about this honestly. If some people don't like Fakemon and some want Fakemon then what would I do? I'm really not very good at map editing, story writing and scripting. There are other activities I've been trying to push for the community and I can just focus more on those. This can be on hold unless more people want it, or if the community decides how they want it done. I think part of the reason I love fakemon is because I always wanted to create my own Pokemon for Nintendo, and the only way I can make my dream a reality is to do this type of thing. Fighting the temptation to link you to Shia LeBouf, I think you shouldn't be so quick to put this on hold. There are still more members left to post and you needn't please us all. I mean, this doesn't have to be our only Community ROM hack. It could be the first of many. This time, you do it with Fakemon, or not, depending what people choose, and the next time we'll do something else! Again, if you want to do it so much, you could always just do it separately.
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Post by Lapis on Dec 15, 2015 14:24:56 GMT -5
Well that was uplifting..
Maybe I can do this under a few small requests.
1: Other people help me. 2: I can add in at LEAST like.. a small amount of new Pokemon. Like, is 5 pushing it? :L
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Post by Eru Ilúvatar on Dec 15, 2015 14:29:04 GMT -5
Well that was uplifting.. Maybe I can do this under a few small requests. 1: Other people help me. 2: I can add in at LEAST like.. a small amount of new Pokemon. Like, is 5 pushing it? :L I can't tell if that was sarcasm or not. ._.
1. I can probably do scripting/story-writing, if it helps. 2. Nope! Fiiiiine but only because you're you. >.>
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Post by Mikumo Ichijou on Dec 15, 2015 14:55:57 GMT -5
I just dislike Fakemon when there's too many of them. Five seems like a good number.
For several years now I've had an idea in my head for a fangame, but it would probably work better on an original game than a hack.... But I could probably help out a bit with the story, if we're actually doing it. Although I don't think I'm reliable enough to actually write one lol.
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